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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 13 May 93       Volume 11 : Issue 101

Today's Topics:

      administrivia
      [*] Alias Director 3.4.3
      [*] easy-view-232.hqx
      [*] First Things First File Utility Submission
      [*] FolderWatcher2.0
      [*] Harddisk Compression Replies
      [*] Hellcats-Leyte-Infin.-Stuff.hqx
      [*] Icon for 7.1 Fonts Folder
      [*] laserwriter-config.hqx (Configuration chart)
      [*] mac-monitor-config.hqx (Macintosh Monitor and Video Matrix)
      [*] Mac-Types-6a.txt
      [*] MacEncrypt 2.0
      [*] MacMeeting Demo
      [*] MacTCP Problem solved
      [*] PrintReceipt 0.9.0
      [*] Quadra 700 Speed Performance Charts
      [*] ReportGen Demo
      [*] Submission: Sparkle, a mac-look-and-feel MPEG player
      [*] Texris 1.2
      [*] TwiLight 7.1.3 screen saver
      [*] ZTerm FAQ - Fixed
      .bin file
      16 bit versus 24 bit video (C)
      600 dpi laser printers (C)
      [[e-mail] : Accounting and Database package ]
      About Harvest C (Q)
      Adding memory to LC?
      Aircraft Navigation (R)
      AirTraffic Controller 4.0
      Alpha GNU-Emacs emulation (Q)
      Announcing Photoshop List
      another try for non-english games
      ARA Script sought
      Assistance requested...
      Battery deep discharging/recharging (C)
      Black Box doesn't work on LC
      BootMan v1.1 (A)
      Centris CD
      CGM -> PICT (or any mac format) (Q)
      Dialogue box fixit for big screens? (Q)
      E-mail from AOL
      Easy View: Quote style
      ESCAPE key
      Exporting Problems
      File Sharing Answer
      Fixing Corrupted Hypercard Stacks
      folderbolt & 7.1, Norton Floppier
      Font: Times 11 bitmap wanted
      gzip
      gzip instructions
      Harvard Graphics converters
      HP Background problems
      HPGL <-> PICT?
      IIE's --> Mac's
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #100 (2 msgs)
      IS Courseware
      JMP (A)
      JMP (R)
      LaserWriter 8.0
      logic font
      looking for a Mac-based bulletin board application
      Looking for a utility to convert IGES, DXF or HPGL files (A)
      Mac error codes
      MacinTalk (where, how much, how good) (A)
      Macsbug
      MacTCP -Old Version and System 7.1 - seems to work fine
      Mystery Crash problem
      need sumacc software
      need sys 6.0.7
      newscrud
      Norton vs Other Utils. (A)
      Performa 450 prices
      Performa vrs LCIII
      Protest IIvi cancellation! Call to arms -- NOT!
      QT 1.6 and SoundManager
      QuickTime 1.6 press release
      Recordable-CD for Audio?
      Room Scheduler
      SIMM prices (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, & 64 Meg - 72 Pins)
      Sockets for MacTCP
      SuperCard advice needed... (Q)
      TCP/IP Connection ?
      Thanks for the Help
      Thanks to the net
      Think C 6
      THINK C 6 IMPORTANT UPGRADE INFO
      TouchBase Pro STINKS!
      Trinitron TVs vs. Monitors
      TurboGopher Bookmark Longforms (A)
      Ultrabook, Color Screens
      What happened to Issue 99?
      where is word-color-toolbar?
      Word styles analyzer (Q)
      Writing in circles (A)
      Wyse50 or TV950/925 emulation for mac?
      Ziffnet-mac (3 msgs)
      ZiffNet/Mac Software

The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Gordon Watts.

The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous,
any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu
[36.44.0.6].  Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help.

Please send articles and binaries to [e-mail].
Send administrative mail to [e-mail].

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 13:32:49 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: administrivia

Hi,
  One of the things we've been intending to do for a while now is implement a
recent directory.  Well, after one minor mishap, we think we have it (or at
least a version of it).  You can find it in /info-mac/recent.  It contains
all files put in the archives over the past 3 weeks.  No ordering, no
directectory structure.

  It should help those who have forgotten where a file was archived, and
should help dealing with the new archive structure.

  Also, with this issue all files are now being archived into the new
directory structure.

  As always, let us know what you think at
[e-mail]!

    Cheers,
        The Moderators

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 12:53:34 -0400
From: Charles Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Alias Director 3.4.3

Martin Jourdan <[e-mail]> writes:

> I need Alias Director 3.4.2 or later, because it corrects a bug which
> is annoying when you have a non-US keyboard.  I've waited for two
> months for it to appear on info-mac@sumex-aim, but as of today only
> version 3.3.2 is there.  Is there another FTP-accessible archive where
> I can find AD 3.4.2?

Here is a copy of Alias Director 3.4.3 which I picked up off of the
umich mirror on wuarchive.  Hopefully, it will fix your annoying bug.

> Alternatively, I know that it can be found on CompuServe; since I live
> in France I don't have access to it.

Note that CompuServe is accessible from France.  There is a CIS node
in Paris, and you can use the Info-Europe network outside Paris.  There
are a lot of French members on CIS.  (Of coure, it's even more expensive
when you access it from Europe.)

Regards.

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/alias-directory-342.hqx; 67K]

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Date: Sun, 9 May 93 17:26:15 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] easy-view-232.hqx

Introduction
 -----------
Easy View is an application for intelligent browsing of collections of
structured text files, large or small. It allows very fast access by
recognizing the internal structure. All of the following text formats
can be viewed using Easy View:

* setext, including TidBITS and similar publications
* Info-Mac, c.s.m.p, or similar digests
* Mail collections: Internet, Navigator, Notebook, etc.


























* Text with "simple" format
* Dictionaries
* Plain text

New Features
 -----------
* Apple event support: ability to open the current file under System 7

* Filters generalize the concept of case-independent search:
  diacritical marks can be ignored, too

* "Search from top" option in Find dialog

* "Hide Top Window" command works very similar to the Hide command in the
  Application menu (Hidden window names are in italic)

* "Use Styles" menu toggles the use of styles. When something is copied
  while it is on, clipboard contents are also styled.

* Temporary memory is used for parsing under System 7, thus decreasing the
  minimum Finder partition

* When text is scrolled, an overlap with the previous window is retained


Warning
 ------
The new "Styles" feature is known to cause occasional system crashes in
some configurations. Please uncheck "Use Styles" menu item if you encounter
such a crash.

This feature is still experimental and it was included only as a demo. When
styles are on, printing will be disabled, text selection may misbehave, and
word wrap may not work properly.

Styles should be turned off during extensive searches for better performance.
Extracting always turns styles off automatically.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/easy-view-232.hqx; 187K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 11:37:13 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Randy Bradley)
Subject: [*] First Things First File Utility Submission

Dear Moderator,
   Here is the First Things First File Utility program, version 3.0, by
Visionary Software Inc.  It allows you to export your FTF agenda to a text
file for use in a database or spreadsheet program.

It should be placed in the /demo directory and should be called
"first-things-first-file-utility.hqx" to match the clock files that are
there.

Attached Document: (if this is a problem, please let me know!)

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/first-things-first-file-utility.hqx; 44K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 20:16:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Joe Zobkiw)
Subject: [*] FolderWatcher2.0

Folder Watcher 2.0 by Joe Zobkiw([e-mail])

Folder Watcher is a faceless background application that keeps
an eye on an unlimited number of folders on your Macintosh, or
a remote Macintosh or server. If the contents of any of these
folders ever change, Folder Watcher will respond by showing an
alert, playing a system beep or a custom sound, writing to a log
file, executing an AppleScript script, or any combination of these.
Unlike other similar utilities, Folder Watcher:

- Does not patch any traps so it is more
  compatible with your other programs.
- Allows you to keep an eye on an infinite
  number of folders.
- Does not require a reboot after adding new
  folders and will work between reboots.
- Does not require that the target folder
  is empty (ie: some other utilities alert
  you whenever an item is placed in an empty
  folder but then never again as long as a single
  item is in the folder! yech!)
- Uses very little RAM (about 200K, due to the
  use of AppleScript which likes lots of memory.)

Folder Watcher requires System 7. Although it does not require a
network, it is most useful when used on one. Folder Watcher is 32
bit clean and is 68040 compatible.

Version 2.0 is a a major rewrite of 1.0 and includes the Folder
Watcher Extension (background-only application), Folder Watcher
Controls (control panel), and an extensive Read Me file. The
control panel sports a slick 3-D color interface.
System 7 is required, AppleScript is not required but it
recommended if you want more control over your folders.
$20 shareware.

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/folder-watch-20.hqx; 84K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 93 11:10:00 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Harddisk Compression Replies

This is a compilation of the replies I received from Info-Mac by asking the
following question:

"I'm thinking of buying either Times Two or AutoDoubler. I have a Mac Classic
4/40 and I'd very much like to know if I'll experience noticeable performance
loss when these utilities compresses/decompresses in the background?"

I seems that the conclusion is that if you've got a Classic (or similar low
performance computer) you should go for an external harddrive. On other
machines your machine's performance falls of course, but hopefully you won't
notice it as much as with the Classic.

For more information read the file "times-two.txt" archived at sumex-aim as
    mac/info-mac/report/times-two.txt

Hope this little bit helps someone
    Morten Sidelmann (Internet: [e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/tmit/compressions-performance.txt; 4K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 93 19:27:37 MDT
From: Allan Hundhausen <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Hellcats-Leyte-Infin.-Stuff.hqx

Hellcats-Leyte-Infin.-Stuff.hqx

Hellcats - Leyte Gulf:  Infinite Stuff Cheat v1.0  (5/7/93)
        by Allan Hundhausen
For use with Hellcats-Leyte Gulf v1.0.

This cheat will give you the following when you hit Command-Shift-6:
    % 255 Rockets
    % 255 Bombs
    % Maximum Ammo
    % Maximum Fuel
    % Sets weight to my favorite weight (just lighter than the
regular Hellcat without any additional weapons)

[Archived as /info-mac/game/hellcats-leyte-infin-cheat.hqx; 3K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 93 09:39:08 EDT
From: Adam Schenker (GE) <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Icon for 7.1 Fonts Folder

Well, I ended up just making the icon myself. This is a nice
puffy-grey icon for the System 7.1 Fonts Folder.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/puffy-folder-icon.hqx; 4K]

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Date: 10 May 1993 15:25:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] laserwriter-config.hqx (Configuration chart)

Here is a configuration chart for the various LaserWriter Models.
It lists ROM, RAM, Processor/Speed, Page description, PPM, ports,
cassette capacity, and min engine life.

The information in this document came from a chart supplied by
Apple Computer Inc. to our local users group.

Comes in very handy. The .HQX file is a compacted MacWrite II
document. The file must be viewed in a nonproportionally spaced
font in order for it to be readable. The document is currently
formatted in 7pt Monoco, landscape, US letter.

Michael W. Wheeler (Bitnet: mww@tntech) (Internet: [e-mail])
VAX/VMS Systems Support, Tennessee Technological University

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/laserwriter-config-chart.txt; 6K]

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Date: 10 May 1993 09:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] mac-monitor-config.hqx (Macintosh Monitor and Video Matrix)

This is a Macintosh monitor and video matrix chart. The information given
was taken from a document supplied by Apple Computer Inc. to our local
users group. It is very detailed and is extremely handy to have around. It
lists the various Macintosh models and video configurations and what bit
depth/number of grays or colors possible for each Mac model and each
Monitor. It also lists dot pitch, resolution, power specs, refresh rate and
other tech goodies, including the part number.

Enjoy! MacWrite II document compress with Compact Pro. There is a lot of
info so it has to be printed out in landscape orientation on US Legal size
paper. It must be printed in a nonproportionally spaced font to be
readable. The document is currently formatted for 8pt Monoco.

Michael W. Wheeler (Bitnet: mww@tntech) (Internet: [e-mail])
VAX/VMS Systems Support, Tennessee Technological University

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/mac-video-chart.hqx; 5K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 11:11:51 -0500
From: David Ruby <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Mac-Types-6a.txt

Here is a semi-complete list of the various Macintosh models in the world
as of February 1993.  I've changed the format a little, and the next version
will have to change again, but it is still readable and has more
information than the version I posted in October.  This is version 6a.

David Ruby                                 [e-mail]
CCSO Network Support                       University of Illinois

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/mac-types-6a.txt; 7K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 18:36:10 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] MacEncrypt 2.0

MacEncrypt 2.0 is a major upgrade to MacEncrypt 1.01, the drag and drop
encryption program for the Macintosh.

MacEncrypt will allow you to encrypt files using the "Data Encryption
Standard."  Encrypted files can only be used if you know the password.
Groups of files can also be encrypted into an encrypted archive.
MacEncrypt can be placed on the desktop next to the trash can and files can
simply be dropped on top of it to be encrypted.

Features added with this release include:

o  A single executable that runs on all Macs.  Color will be used on color
Macs.
o  Archives.  Multiple files can be archived in a single archive file with a
   single password.
o  Reusable passwords.  Multiple files can be encrypted or decrypted with a
   single password.  Previous versions required that you retype the password
   for
   each file.
o  File shredding.  Files encrypted with previous versions of MacEncrypt were
   susceptible to viewing with low-level disk editing programs if the
   encrypted
   files were kept on the same disk.  "Extra Security" is now an option.  This
   feature will overwrite the place on disk where the encrypted file used to
   be
   so that it will never be readable by anything.
o  Archived items can be left or deleted after archiving.

MacEncrypt is shareware.  The shareware fee is $10.00.  The program
continues to be supported, developed and improved.  Registered users are
informed of free upgrades.  Site licenses are also available.

J. Clarke Stevens
1118 Forrest Blvd.
Decatur, GA  30030
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/mac-encrypt-20.hqx; 43K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 16:49:20 -0400
From: "David T. Haberly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] MacMeeting Demo

   I enclose a copy of the demonstration version of MacMeeting.
This simple but extremely useful program is designed for academic
departments; it keeps track of the set weekly obligations (labs,
classes, office hours, and so on) of up to 100 colleagues, and
shows the blocks of time during which any sub-set of those
colleagues can meet.  The program is a real time-saver for
secretaries and administrators.  It can also be used by any
organization whose members have relatively fixed weekly
schedules.  The demonstration version is fully functional, but
has a limit of 5 colleagues; it works on all Macs running any
system since 6.7.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/mac-meeting.hqx; 43K]

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Date: 10 May 1993 10:09:16 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] MacTCP Problem solved

     MacTCP Problem solved
I feel silly!  The overwhelming response to the MacTCP 1.1 with System 7.1
was:
 use MacTCP 1.1.1; System 7.1 *REQUIRES* MacTCP 1.1.1.

I upgraded my IIcx about 3 months ago and I forgot about upgrading MacTCP to
1.1.1 when I was setting up these new machines.  I've also been embroiled in
mucho network problemos, so I didn't have time to remember such a *TRIVIAL*
fact!  ;-)

[Archived as /info-mac/info/comm/mactcp-111-for-sys-7.txt; 5K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 93 07:47:03 CDT
From: JOSHUA GOLUB 708-304-7573 <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] PrintReceipt 0.9.0

enclosed is version 0.9.0 of the PrintReceipt system extension. a description
of the extension is below.

please send any bugs, comments or suggestions to:

joshua golub
1585 ridge avenue
evanston, illinois 60201
708-304-7573
[e-mail]

B A C K G R O U N D   I N F O R M A T I O N

Across the span of a week, there are a large number of "lost" print jobs that
accumulate at the printer. These are jobs that are printed but then forgotten
about. Unfortunately, the PrintMonitor application does not provide any sort
of reminder that a print job is complete and ready to be picked up.

A B O U T   P R I N T R E C E I P T

PrintReceipt is a system extension that will monitor the progress of the
PrintMonitor application, and display an alert box when the PrintMonitor
has completed sending the current print job to the printer.

One should note that a print job may contain either a single document or
multiple documents. PrintReceipt will display an alert when the entire print
job is complete, not when each individual document in the job is complete.

I N S T A L L A T I O N

To install PrintReceipt, place it in the Extensions folder inside the System
folder and restart the computer.

S Y S T E M  R E Q U I R E M E N T S

PrintReceipt requires System 7 or later, and will use 8K of memory.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/print-receipt-09.hqx; 26K]

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Date: Sun, 9 May 93 3:11:55 AST
From: [e-mail] (Info-Mac Moderator)
Subject: [*] Quadra 700 Speed Performance Charts

Quadra 700 Speed Performance Charts

The following Excel 4.0 document shows the performance curves generated
>From 25 to 36 MHz based on benchmarks run on a Quadra 700 with the
Variable Speed Overdrive, and having placed pin sockets for the 50 MHz
crystal. This is sort of a follow up to Guy Kuo's reports on replacing
the crystal for a higher frequency one. I hope you find it useful if
you're trying to select an appropriate speed or, if you just wonder what
kind of beast lies inside that box. All of this came up after exchanging
some e-mail with Guy and finding on both of our machines a zone of
no-tolerance (with VSO around 33 MHz).
In my particular case I found an optimum range of speeds with no
performance degradation.

This document was compacted with Stuffit and bin hexed.

Guido Paccagnella
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/quadra-700-performance.hqx; 20K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1993 20:08:55 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] ReportGen Demo

This demo version of ReportGen 2.0 is fully functional except that it does not
allow you to print or save your created reports.  Viewing them on the screen
however should give you an idea as to what a simple, yet powerful tool this
utility is.

ReportGen is Mac software developed by a teacher in our district and is now
widely used throughout the province of British Columbia as a utility for
preparing anecdotal reports on student progress.

The program enables teachers to construct individual reports rapidly and
effectively. The teacher generates a list of comments that will contain "smart
pronouns"

The teacher can generate multiple comment lists and load them in as he/she
chooses.  Our teachers generally create a set of comments for each reporting
period as the kinds of observations that one makes on a student change as the
year progresses.

The teacher begins a report by entering the student name and gender into a
template.

The teacher then loads in the desired comment file and double clicks on the
desired comments.

The placement of either the pronoun or the student's real name will change
depending on the placement of the sentence in the paragraph.  This placement
of comments will allow for the generation of smooth sounding paragraphs with
the student's name or the pronoun (he/she or him/her) being placed at
appropriate intervals.

The comments and observations are "double clicked" from the report generator
and placed into a report window which is a full text editor so teachers can
edit and add comments on the fly that may not be part of their set comment
list.

The interface is simple and follows the complete Mac guidelines.  One comment
about the software is that it has been called the "MacWrite of report
generators". It will run on as little as a 512ke Macintosh and one 800k disk
that includes system 6.02 with ImageWriter Print drivers and limited fonts.

What we have found in our district is that it has been a "hook" to getting
more teachers using the technology.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/report-gen-20.hqx; 152K]

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Date: Mon, 10 May 93 19:46:32 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Maynard Handley)
Subject: [*] Submission: Sparkle, a mac-look-and-feel MPEG player

Sparkle version 1.0. May 9 1993

 ------------------------------

Sparkle is a mac MPEG player. It features

    The mac look and feel,

    Multifinder friendliness and backgrounding,

    The ability to open multiple files at once,

    The standard QuickTime movie controller to control MPEGs,

    Saving to QuickTime movies.


This is version 1.0. It has some limitations due to circumstances beyond

my control (like fascist standards boards that won't put their documenst

up for FTP) but is quite usable. I hope to correct the various

limitations in version 2.0 when I obtain various documentation I need.


Please read the enclosed README file---it explains some gotchas in the

program.


I hope you like this,

Maynard Handley

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/mpeg-player.hqx; 144K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 93 02:36:50 GMT+0900
From: [e-mail] (SUMIYA Takahiro)
Subject: [*] Texris 1.2

[Texris 1.2]

Texris is a tetris clone game for two players(side-by-side
competition).  Requires System 6.07 or later. Freeware.

Version history
 (since 1.1)
   * Resizable frame: You can change the flame size in any size
     from 4 by 4 to 20 by 40.
   * Swap key: You can exchange the useless piece with his.
 (since 1.2)
   * Key setting: You can modify the key setting.
   * B/W version: The patch application which make Black/White
     version is included.

                 -----
       Takahiro Sumiya ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/game/texris-12.hqx; 90K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 93 20:06:13 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Robert Lukassen)
Subject: [*] TwiLight 7.1.3 screen saver

Hello moderators,

please find enclosed the latest update of the free screen saver for
Macintosh computers. This version (7.1.3) replaces the earlier releases
(7.1.0, 7.1.1 and 7.1.2) and is the first version that can work on all
macintoshes. This package includes the TwiLight control panel and an
installer that can install a screen brightness driver on the computer.
People using a Macintosh Classic or Classic II need not upgrade, since
the screen saver still has the same functionality.

Description:

This is a screen saver for macintoshes. It dims the screen to a user
brightness level that the user can set via a user-friendly control panel.
It uses almost no memory, runs completely in the background and uses little
CPU time. While dimmed, programs continue to run, so print-jobs are not
interrupted. As a bonus, it allows the setting of the screen brightness
using the numerical keys 0-9 with some user-definable modifiers.

Full balloon help is implemented and documentation is included in the
package (a TeachText document).


Needed:

A Macintosh computer running system software version 7.0.1 or higher.

A postcard of your home town, since this software is postware.


This version replaces all previous versions.

Robert 'MacBear' Lukassen

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/twilight-713.hqx; 48K]

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Date: Tue, 11 May 93 10:19:54 CDT
From: Rick Russell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ZTerm FAQ - Fixed

The recently uploaded ZTerm FAQ had been stored double-binhexed and
stuffed, when it's really just a 30K text file that doesn't require
binhexing anyway.

Here is the ZTerm FAQ, unbinhexed/unbinhexed and unstuffed.  I do not
maintain this file, I just fix it :-)

[Archived as /info-mac/info/comm/zterm-09-faq.txt; 34K]

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Date: 12 May 1993 22:54:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron Barnett <[e-mail]>
Subject: .bin file

i got a file.cpt.bin and don't know how to get the shuff out.
help.
i got it at nic.switch.ch

aaron

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 17:36:39 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 16 bit versus 24 bit video (C)

Dear net,

Although people can only distinguish several hundred thousand shades of
colour (not entirely sure about that number), and therefore 24-bit colour
(which gives you 16 million shades) should be enough, in fact there are
occasions when it is not. Photographic images are usually fine (but not if
you have scanned them in with really poor contrast or brightness and
want to correct them (although that is more a problem of the 24 bittiness
of 32 Bit QuickDraw than of the video)).

However, graduated backgrounds can give problems. There
are only 256 shades of grey or gradations from, say, pure red through
dark red to black. You might have only 20 shades available if you want a
subtle transition from a pale grey to a slightly darker grey. Using Persuasion
I have been aware of banding on screen at times (and the optical illusion
of the boundary areas of patches of colour looking different from the
interior of the patch when it is placed next to a different colour patch
makes it look worse than "it is").

I have not been able to see a 16-bit screen, but I have been told that
photographic images look reasonable. However, with only 5 bits
available, you only get 32 shades of grey etc. I think that would be
very noticeable in graduated backgrounds. (This should only be a
problem on screen - 32 Bit QuickDraw should handle it when you
output to suitable film recorders, printers etc.)

Finally a question: has anyone got speed comparisons for the
following, preferably in 24 bit mode where applicable as well as 8 bit
mode, and preferably using a IIci or a IIsi and one of the older Quadras as
the
basis for comparison:
-  Apple 8.24 card
-  screen RAM of IIci and IIsi models
-  VRAM
-  accelerated 24 bit cards

Adv
Thanks
ance

[e-mail]1
[e-mail]
<C=es;A=mensatex;P=y-net;O=sp1;S=Kenyon;G=Bob>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 09:21:30 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 600 dpi laser printers (C)

Susan Todd Brook <[e-mail]> writes

> Does anyone have any experience with any of the following true 600 x
> 600 dpi printers that can print 11 x 17 paper: Xante Accel-a-Writer
> 8100, GCC Select Press 600, and the QMS 860?

Our shop recently bought two QMS 860 printers.  They are excellent
printers: they're fast and have wonderful printing quality.  They come
with an extension (called QMS Paper Handler) that adds a Setup item to
the LaserWriter "Print" dialog box.  It will allow you to, e.g.,
choose a paper tray (or even to choose a different paper tray for each
page in your print job, if you want). Neat! Also, we have gotten
excellent support from the QMS people. I posted this response to sumex
to check if my mailer is working :-).

-Bo Parker
[e-mail]

``...the razor inside, sir...jerk the handle...''

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 09:28:17 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [[e-mail] : Accounting and Database package ]

I would appreciate if someone could give me some information on which
(a) accounting software and (b) database package is most appropriate for a
small business. Please reply directly to my e-mail address. Thank you for
your help.

Raman Uppal         e-mail: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 May 93 16:31:59-0400
From: /PN=JOHN.WITHERS/O=IRS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com
Subject: About Harvest C (Q)

Hello all.

I've downloaded Harvest C from sumex-aim successfully.  However,
I have a problem.  Apparently, none of the 'header' (*.h) files
are included in the package.  Therefore, none of the sample
source files can be compiled.  Is this an oversight or have
I missed something.

John Withers
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:55:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark London <[e-mail]>
Subject: Adding memory to LC?

I presently have a 4M memory configration on my LC.  Someone told me that I
have
2 slots of 1M RAM and I can replace them with 2 2M to increase it to 6M.
However, I happen to have access to free 1M chips and wonder if there is a
cheap
way to use them to increase the memory without having to buy chips.  Is this
possible?  Thanks.

Mark London
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 23:00:00 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Aircraft Navigation (R)

    Awhile back I made a theorist notebook postcard describing the solution
partially to someone who wanted to point along a great circle as he prayed to
Mecca. The formulas were complex with multiple valued inverse trig functions
that confused me.
    The fellow thanked me and went with the theory to geographers.
    Wais search for Mecca as I've stuffed his address and posting, see what
improvements he has made on my theory.
    I will send you the e mail of the postcard under separate post. Buried in
it is the great circle angle from which you can get the great circle distance
>From earth radius by multiplication if your angle is in radians.

------------------------------

Date: 13 May 1993 08:01:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Greg Wertz - 'system')
Subject: AirTraffic Controller 4.0

I am running Air Traffic Controller 4.0 on an LCII with system 7.1.  It
works fine until I try to change something, like game parameters of adding
a high score.  As soon as I hit the DONE button, the game exits with a
type 1 error and I cannot run it anymore.

Any ideas?

Greg.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 12:31:22 EDT
From: Tony Silva <[e-mail]>
Subject: Alpha GNU-Emacs emulation (Q)

A FAQ, for sure :-) :

Does anyone have a startup script for the latest version of Alpha
which will make it emulate GNU Emacs as closely as possible?

Tony Silva, Atlantic Aerospace Elec. Corp., [phone], [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 21:40:50 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Jay Boersma)
Subject: Announcing Photoshop List

Name: Photshop (8 chars)
Desc: Adobe Photoshop for Mac or PC (29 chars)
Short paragraph: The purpose of this list is to provide a forum for
discussion of the Adobe Photoshop application and issues related to its use
in both the Mac and PC environments.

Well that's the official description. The unofficial one is:

Here's the list that you (well some of you, anyway) have been waiting for -
the Adobe Photoshop list, a place to discuss the coolest program ever
written for Mac or PC.

Since this list is just beginning, activity may be a little slow at first,
but hang in there. Hopefully it won't be long before we reach that critical
mass necessary to sustain continued discussion.

To subscribe:

    Send e-mail to [e-mail] (or [e-mail])
    with the following message:

    SUB PHOTSHOP <your real name>

    Leave the subject line blank and do not use a signature.

    --> note that the middle "o" is missing from Phot()shop
        (one letter had to go & it seemed like the most expendable)

(Please don't send your subscription request to me - sure, I'll read it,
but that won't get you subscribed.)
 ------------------------------------------------------------>Jay Boersma
                           Governors State University
                      University Park, Illinois 60466
                          [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 12 May 1993 19:25:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Some assembly required <[e-mail]>
Subject: another try for non-english games

OK y'all out there in netland.  I find it hard to believe that out of the
hundreds of people who read this outside the US that only ne of you oplays
non-english games (or has _kids_ who play them!).

I'm making another request for names and/or addresses of companies that
distribute games in German, Spanish, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian,
Japanese,
Chinese, and others.  I'm looking for interactive games in which the user has
to know the language to play, like adventures or mysteries.  These can be
either in DOS or Mac format.

All it takes is looking in a local phonebook for computer stores or writing
down the address of the last place from which you bought a game (for your
kids,
of course).

Many people have asked about the results of my search, mostly American
teachers, but few have responded with info.  Help us!


                        --  Polyglot Pete
                            [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 May 1993 18:04:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Condo <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARA Script sought

For a relative, I am seeking an ARA script to drive the Zoom v.32bis
faxmodem. Any pointers (or an upload!) would be appreciated. Danke schoen.

Fred Condo + [e-mail] + [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Assistance requested...

To whom it may concern:

I have noted this address in a recent issue of Macworld (April 1993) and would
like to know more about the InfoMac Digest.  My access to Internet is via a
VAX/VMS using either TELNET or FTP.  If possible, please send information as
to how to login as an anonymous user or guest (username and password).

Thank you.

-- Mike Freeman
-- Harris Corp. ATCSD
-- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 17:44:18 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Battery deep discharging/recharging (C)

Pete Tamas asks:

>Battery Charger/Conditioner for Powerbook 140 or 170. It alleges to
>prolong the life of the battery by discharging the battery before
>recharging it. How much of a factor is this? Also, can I conclude that
>this is not an issue for other PowerBooks?

It is a factor for all Powerbooks which use Nickel Cadmium batteries
except the 100 (which uses Lead) and maybe the Duos (which use
Nickel Hydride which I don't know about).

I am so fed up with Nickel Cadmium batteries that I have decided not
to buy any more products that use them. A deep discharging charger
might solve the problem, but it is so much more convenient to recharge
the battery by plugging it into the wall while using the Powerbook.
(I get occasional use of a Powerbook 100).

[e-mail]1
[e-mail]
<C=es;A=mensatex;P=y-net;O=sp1;S=Kenyon;G=Bob>

(P.S. I was surprised to read that Apple tecnical note that someone
quoted recently. It is contrary to everything else I have heard.
I saw a Sony CamCorder recently which had a device (have I got this right,
or was it just a note in the manual) to help make sure that you deep
discharge the battery every fifth recharge.)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 8:07:42 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Craig R. Sadler)
Subject: Black Box doesn't work on LC

 I downloaded Andrew Welch's latest version of Black Box (1.5) only
to find that it doesn't seem to work on an LC running 7.1. The
screen saver and clock work, but all the other icons are blank
and/or they only beep when I double click them so that nothing can
be configured. I ran this experiment with all my other startup
documents disabled.

 In the documentation (I did read it!), it mentions that Black Box
is meant to run on at least a Mac II but will run on a plus or an
SE. Is the LC's architecture "SNI" (specifically not implemented) ?
Couldn't find an E-mail address for Andrew Welch.

Craig Sadler
[e-mail]
San Diego State University

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 10:47:34 -0700
From: "OPUS::QUICKMAIL"@nwrdc.wednet.edu (Benjamin Grossman)
Subject: BootMan v1.1 (A)

QuickMail<tm> from Benjamin Grossman
Attn:info-mac
___________________________________________________________________

               Subject:
Time:10:21 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          BootMan v1.1 (A)
Date:5/13/93
> * Where might I find a Bootman more recent than version 1.1 (one
> point one)? * Under what conditions might a user of "System 7.x.?"
> benefit from any version of Bootman?

As far as I know, v1.1 is the current release.
You do not need or want to use Bootman on System 7 Macintoshes.
System 7 is doing various heap adjustment things on its own, and I
would not expect either to need Bootman, nor to have good results
>From messing with the System's heap management.

Biggest issue when using Bootman: remember not to make the heap too
big on Macs with limited memory --- or nothing will run!

I notice that CE Software is now distributing Bootman with QuickMail
instead of their own HeapFixer, which had a less friendly interface.
Another point of quality and honor for CE! (boosterism).


___________________________________________________________________

------------------------------

Date: Wed May 12 14:17:39 1993
From: [e-mail] (David Wechsler)
Subject: Centris CD

Hello netters
I just get a Centris 650 with internal CD-ROM.
I would like to record direct from audio CD (from internal CD) to Harddisk.
The sound controlpanel "options" is disabled.

Any ideas??

Thanxs in advance

                        -David

Internet:  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 10:57:55 ADT
From: C8VS000 <[e-mail]>
Subject: CGM -> PICT (or any mac format) (Q)

Greetings:

Can anyone point me towards a graphics conversion utility that
handles CGM format? Price is not an object.

Thanks in advance,



Trevor Sawler
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 17:36 BST
From: Simon Shum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dialogue box fixit for big screens? (Q)

Is there anything out there which allows you to get a dialogue box
(at least in the Finder) to appear where your cursor is, rather than
the middle of the screen? It's annoying to have to travel to the middle
simply to click OK (sometimes repeatedly if executing a series of actions).

This used to be an option on SuperMac software which was great when I
had a SuperMac screen, but I now use an Apple 2-pager.

Thanks,

Simon Shum

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 08:11:36 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark Vellek)
Subject: E-mail from AOL

Okay, I have a direct InterNet connection, and I can send mail to my
brother on AOL. I know there's a way for him to send it back to me, but
since I dropped AOL about two years ago (long before I even knew Internet
existed) I don't know how to instruct him in the correct protocol for a
response to me. Any ideas?
Gracias :-)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 12:29:52 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Easy View: Quote style

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> What I wish to know, though, is why only ~some~  Info-Mac quotes display in
> the correct style. For instance, I transferred this message into one of my
> existing Digests; all the styles work correctly, except quotation. Any
> ideas?

The Quote style was added at the last minute, and I believe it only
works with the expression "> " so if that space is missing, it doesn't
help. Perhaps the next version will add multiple quote styles.

cheers ... -Adam

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 18:24:45 EDT
From: Alberto Cambrosio <[e-mail]>
Subject: ESCAPE key

Thanks to all the people who answered my message concerning the
ESCAPE key. Some pointed out that the ESCAPE key is on the upper
left  corner of the keyboard... I was of course aware of that: the point
was that the ESCAPE key was not recognized as such by the
computer I was trying to connect with. Others pointed out that I
should try to use control-[ or use the set key macros function to
program some other key. Nothing worked. It now turns out that the
problem is not with my Mac, but with the mainframe which I use as
an intermediary to connect with on-line databases! This does not
solve my problem (at least not yet: our technical staff is working on
that) but it does exonerate the Mac! Thanks again for your help.
Alberto Cambrosio

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 07:34:19 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark Vellek)
Subject: Exporting Problems

Okay, here's one for the 'Net:
    Does anyone have any experience (or problems thereof) of exporting
EDS Unigraphics SOLID drawings (not wire-frame) to the Mac for use in
something like, let's say, AutoCAD?

Any help or experience would be appreciated - just E-mail me direct.

------------------------------

Date: 12 May 1993 11:34:14 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: File Sharing Answer

     File Sharing Answer
Tom Coradeschi <[e-mail]> asks:

>I have a folder on my Mac publicly available as a read-only volume via
>FileSharing. I use it to allow folks in my building (about 35 of them) to
>get the latest Disinfectant, etc.
>
>The problem that I have is that people tend not to remove the volume from
>their desktops when they're done (not all that bad, really) or accidentally
>have the volume auto-mounted at startup (really quite a drag, from my point
>of view). Since the users end up logging in as guest, I have no idea who
>this
is! Sure, I can disconnect them. but the next time they start/restart >their
mac, back they come. I can wander around the building and look at >avery mac
(yecchh), but there's gotta be a better solution.

Yes there is a solution.  Unfortunately, it's a commercial one.  Nok Nok, from
Trik Software, *SUPPOSEDLY* lets you know who's logging onto your machine,
even
if they're logging on as a Guest.  I have an older version, which really
doesn't give me the underlying actual user to a Guest login, but there's
another feature which is IMMENSELY useful.

Nok Nok allows you to set up automatic disconnection times for guests as well
as for authorized users.  For both types, you can set up the total amount of
connect time as well as a disconnect time after a certain period of
inactivity.
 I, too, have users that inadvertently "auto-connect" to my Public folder
(which I disseminate Disinfectant upgrades and other info), and I find this
feature of Nok Nok to be very useful.

I think there's a newer version out called Nok Nok Pro, which gives better
logging of Guest connections.  You can contact Trik, Inc. at:
      400 W. Cummings Park, Suite 2350
      Woburn, MA  01801
      1-800-766-0356


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 22:44:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Tom Gerstel)
Subject: Fixing Corrupted Hypercard Stacks

I need help fixing a corrupted Hypercard stack. I've tried using
Norton 2.0 and NOW Utilities but haven't had any luck (one of them
told me, uh yup-it's damaged, use your backup copy)

Suggestions? Please reply directly. Thanks.

Tom Gerstel
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu,  13 May 93 13:09 +0200
From: Dvorah Art <[e-mail]>
Subject: folderbolt & 7.1, Norton Floppier

Two questions:

What are the incompatibilities between Folderbolt ans system 7.1?

What experiences have you (out in netland) had with Norton Utilities
Floppier? I just had a doozy. I planned to make backup copies of
Excel original disks. I figured, we just got Norton, let's try Norton.
Floppier has an option to let you copy onto disks fresh out of the box
(format before copying)-tried that, said my 800k disks were the wrong
size. Tried formatting the disks first, then it agreed (or so it
seemed) to make the copies. Checked over the backups,(which I did in
order from 1-7) and only disks 3  & 5 were ok, the other 5 gave a
disk damaged message. Reformatted those disks without Norton to make
sure they were ok, and they were. Checked the original disks (which,
like an idiot, I didn't write protect- I'll never do that again!)
and guess what - disk 4 was now damaged. Disk 4 wasn't damaged
yesterday when I installed it on the hard disk! Tried to fix it with
NDD- sorry this disk is unfixable!
So I sent the disk back to the retailer  for him to make a new copy,
and all the rest of the days backups I made with DiskCopy, which thank
goodness behaved.(whew...)
And then I erased Floppier from my hard disk as fast as I could!
It couldn't possibly be meant to work this way, and Norton gets
good reviews- any ideas?
(This all happened on a IIvx running 7.1)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 08:40:30 +0200
From: "Olaf F. Normann" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Font: Times 11 bitmap wanted

Hello!
I have heard that if you select font Times with relatively small
sizes (say 11 points) then it will not calculate a good bitmap to
show on screen. And I need to use times 11 but it is hard to read on screen.
So, does anyone know where I can get a bitmap version of Times 11?

-olaf

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 13:43:04 +0100 (BST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: gzip

>        Personally, I have has trouble getting gzip to work, but that's
>because its interface is axkward, to say the least.  Something a little
>easier to use would be most welcome.
>John Williams
>INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, 37380 Nouzilly, France

First time round its horrific.
Simple instructions:
First download gzip.hqx, its not present in .z format so that is not a
problem.
Decompress it as per normal on the Mac.
Next download the desired .z file, dont forget to set "bin" on the
remote machine before transfer.
Next down load to your Mac, again not forgetting to do it in binary
format.
Now rename the transferred file to something short and memorable
like "name1.z", the .z is obligatory.
Now run gzip.
It gives you a most inelegant un-mac-like command line interface.
The command line will already say "gzip", type after it -d name1.z.
The command line will now read gzip -d name1.z.
Press return and it will decompress your file and rename it as
"name1". Press return to return to the desk top.
Other arguments than -d are possible, the options are listed in a help file.
That should be enought to get started anyone who has been having
problems.

Dennis
--
INTERNET: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 06:12 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: gzip instructions

In 11-100, John Williams points out that the src.ic.doc.uk archive
identifies gzip (also known as GNU-zip) files with a ".z" suffix and says
that you can decompress them with the Mac program gzip.

That program is filed on sumex-aim.stanford.edu as:
/info-mac/util/gzip.hqx
and has the most awful interface you can imagine. There are NO instructions
of any kind. The program opens up to a command line interface, but provides
no clues as to what you have to feed to the interface to actually get it to
do something. Guess wrong and the program forces you to exit!

Since the program looked like a direct port of the UNIX version, I tried
typing "gzip -h" in the command line and--SURPRISE!--wound up with the
internal help file:

gzip 1.0.7 (18 Mar 93)
usage: gzip [-cdfhLrtvV19] [file ...]
 -a --ascii       ascii text; convert end-of-lines to local OS conventions
 -c --stdout      write on standard output, keep original files unchanged
 -d --decompress  decompress
 -f --force       force overwrite of output file and compress links
 -h --help        give this help
 -L --license     display software license
 -q --quiet       suppress all warnings
 -r --recurse     recurse through directories
 -t --test        test compressed file integrity
 -v --verbose     verbose mode
 -V --version     display version number
 -1 --fast        compress faster
 -9 --best        compress better
 file...          files to (de)compress. If none given, use standard input.

So now you all know how to use the program.

I suppose it's pointless to ask why a program for a Mac requires you to
know UNIX commands, or why the help file wasn't included as a separate file
in the upload.

Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 09:27:39 CST
From: "Juan M. Courcoul"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Harvard Graphics converters

Dear fellow Mac enthusiasts:

Short of buying a Mac version of the program, is there any way to import
a Harvard Graphics slideshow, developed on the DOS version of the program
to an equivalent Mac-based application ?

The HG presentations are done on HG 3.0 and we have on hand Word 5.1,
Pagemaker 4.2, PowerPoint 3.0 and Canvas 3.0.5.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Juan M. Courcoul
Monterrey Tech, Queretaro Campus

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 15:05:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Marc Bizer)
Subject: HP Background problems

Dear HP Deskwriter and PowerBook owners,
    I've discovered that HP Background quits unexpectedly. Initially, I
was having problems getting my PowerBook to sleep when running off of the
battery (with AppleTalk off); nothing, not even pulling down the sleep menu
in the Finder, would put it to sleep. Once for no reason at all I checked
my RAM partitions using "Memory view" offered by NowMenus, and I discovered
that HP Background was not there! I thought that this might be a
coincidence, but since then I've been using MacsBug continuously, and now I
drop into MacsBug whenever HP Background quits with a Type 1 bus error
(whereas before there was no message whatsoever). After this happened
today, I tried to put my machine to sleep, and it refused, so it appears
that there is a cause and effect relationship here. What's weird is that I
rebooted, and I got an HP Background error as it was loading (system error
#28). No one else seems to be having this problem. Do you have any ideas?
It seems to occur under the following circumstances: (1) when AppleTalk is
off (2) when AppleTalk is on and I disconnect the printer, even though
obviously nothing is being printed or scheduled to print.
    Thanks for your help.
    Yours truly,
    Marc Bizer

P.S. I have a PowerBook 170 running System 7.1 with 8 megs of RAM. I have
plenty of free memory, and I've increased the memory allocated to HP Print
Monitor to 345K.

P.P.S. Here is MacsBug output from the Type 1 error. CursApp indicates HP
Background in spite of "no procedure name" below. Typing "EA" to start the
faulty application returns me to the Finder, where I've informed that "HP
Background could not be launched."

Bus Error at 0001AD00
while reading long word from FFF42050 in Supervisor data space
 Disassembling from pc-20
  No procedure name
        0001ACE0   MOVE.L     $001C(A6),-(A7)                         |
2F2E 001C
        0001ACE4   PEA        -$00EE(A6)                              |
486E FF12
        0001ACE8   MOVEA.L    $0012(A6),A0                            |
206E 0012
        0001ACEC   MOVEA.L    (A0),A0                                 |
        2050
        0001ACEE   PEA        $0002(A0)                               |
4868 0002
        0001ACF2   MOVEA.L    $000E(A6),A0                            |
206E 000E
        0001ACF6   MOVEA.L    (A0),A0                                 |
        2050
        0001ACF8   PEA        $0002(A0)                               |
4868 0002
        0001ACFC   MOVEA.L    $000A(A6),A0                            |
206E 000A
        0001AD00  *MOVEA.L    (A0),A0                                 |
        2050
        0001AD02   PEA        $0002(A0)                               |
4868 0002
        0001AD06   MOVE.W     #$0005,-(A7)                            |
3F3C 0005
        0001AD0A   PEA        -$0074(A6)                              |
486E FF8C
        0001AD0E   JSR        ([$1A84])                               |
4EB0 81E1 1A84
        0001AD14   BEQ        *+$12DA                    ; 0001BFEE   |
6700 12D8
        0001AD18   MOVE.L     $0016(A6),-$009C(A6)                    |
2D6E 0016 FF64
        0001AD1E   MOVE.W     $001A(A6),-$0098(A6)                    |
3D6E 001A FF68
 Calling chain using A6 links
  A6 Frame   Caller
 Return addresses on the stack
  Stack Addr  Frame Addr   Caller
   007627B8               0075EB36 'CODE 0001 0526 Main'+0EC2
   007627A4    007627A0   0075DE8C main+00BC
   0076278C               0075DCD2 mel+0028
   0076274C               000675F6 'scod BFAC 0002'+169E
   0076271C    00762718   00067676 'scod BFAC 0002'+171E
   00762706    00762702   0009E4F0
   007626D0    007626CC   00067BBA 'scod BFAC 0002'+1C62
   007626BC               0006749A 'scod BFAC 0002'+1542
   007626B8               0005A922
   00762698               0005A922
   00762680    0076267C   008889AC
   0076266A               0089879C _FPPriv+2FCC
   0076263E               0089879C _FPPriv+2FCC
   0076261C               00852F08 _TestManager+8AF8
   00762618               004FFFFC
   00762612    0076260E   000A4DF4
   007625F0               0089879C _FPPriv+2FCC
   007625CE               00852F08 _TestManager+8AF8
   007625CA               004FFFFC
   007625BE    007625BA   000A4EEC
   00762598               000C3030
   00762580               0002D830
   00762570    0076256C   0082C38E _StdDevLoop+01AE
   00762562    0076255E   0082C1CE _rHilite+033E
   00762530               0001FFFE
   0076251E               000E407C WINSERTMENU+003E
   00762518               00812FC6 _vXFSearch+0762
   007624E4               00809B6E _UnimplTrap+0088
   007624D0               0088AEAE
   007624CC               0080A49C _ADBOp+00C0
   007624C0               007624CE
   007624A2    0076249E   008E6780 _FPPriv+0FB0
   0076246E               00809B6E _UnimplTrap+0088
   0076246A               00005C32
   0076243A               004FFFFC
   00762404               008E6C50 _FPPriv+1480
   007623F6               00888FF4
   007623C6               004FFFFC
   007623A6               00812000 _vLg2Phys+00EC
   0076238E               000A4DF4
   0076236C               008885DE _vMWrData+9622
   00762334    00762330   000C38F4
   0076230C    00762308   00077ABA 'scod BFB0 0002'+22B6
   007622DC               00013266
   007622C8               00013590
   007622C0               0080DBF8 _StripAddress+048C
   007622B4               0081BA18 _vStdExit+024E
   0076229C               0002D830
   00762296               008E0000 _FPPriv+A830
   00762284               00811A18 _vFileWrite+00BA
   00762280               00811A18 _vFileWrite+00BA
   0076225A               00007A18
   00762256               00007BA6
   00762252               00007D5A
   00762236               0080FFFE _vDtrmV1+00DA
   00762232               0080FFFE _vDtrmV1+00DA
   00762212               0089879C _FPPriv+2FCC
   007621EC    007621E8   0001FFFE
 Closing log

------------------------------

Date: 12 May 1993 21:09:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (David S. Greenberg)
Subject: HPGL <-> PICT?

Anyone know of a converter that will go from HPGL to pict and back? I
seem to remember an Apple File Exch. converter floating around sometime
ago, but can't seem to find it out here in netland... Of course HPGL<->
whatever would be nice too (I seem to have converters that will go from
most stuff to PICT, but no HPGL'er...)...

thanx in advance for the HELP! Oh yeah, please send responses to me via
Email -- I don';t often get a chance to read the ole list (classes and
crap like that don't ya know...)
--
Microcomputer Support Specialist, Student Residential Programs, WIU,
Macomb, IL  61455 Internet: [e-mail], [e-mail]
GEnie: GREENY (once a month, Internet's preferred)
AOL: [e-mail] (really infrequently....use the internet!)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 07:02:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Tomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIE's --> Mac's

>A friend of mine has an important project in the works, but some of
>the data is stored in Appleworks format. Is there a MAC utility to
>convert this information to MAC format?

MacWrite can do this for you if you have the correct translators installed.
I have a need to go from Bank Street Writer III to Mac. Anybody know how
to do this?
Thanks
            john

John Tomas
[e-mail]
Socorro I.S.D.
El Paso, Tx.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 15:30:18 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #100

At  7:05pm 11/5/93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: 10 May 1993 12:59:47 -0600 (CST)
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Ziffnet-mac
>
>I was prompted into writing this while reading the messages about where to
>find HideAlways, and the fact that it is ONLY available on Ziffnet.
>
>It seems to me that creatinga shareware/freeware product but then limiting
>its distribution to one online service is a tad strange.  Please don't flame
>at me - I do not begrudge Ziffnet to run their business as they do.  I just
>am of the opinion that wide distribution of freeware/shareware is a better
>option for all parties included.
>
>So what does one call such software?  It's obviously not "free"ware, since
you
>must subscribe to their service.  Neither is it "share"ware since it can't be
>shared outside the service.  Perhaps it is subware - you must subscribe to
>their service to get it?
>
>What do y'all think about this idea of limiting distribution.  I know it is
>one thing that has kept me from joining Ziffnet.  The last thing I need is
>to belong to a "private" club.
>
>stj
>Steven T. Jones
>Assistant Professor of Design & Technology
>Middle Tennessee State University


I couldn't agree more. How can it be shareware/freeware if you have to pay
(a subscription) to even try it out.

This system of distribution also means that it is only readily available to
people in the USA as even though I am a MacUser subscriber trans atlantic
downloading via modem is hardly a viable option.

It seemed to me pretty weird that I could get the 7.01 compatible version
of HideAlways via sumex but could only get the 7.1 version from Ziffnet.

It's bad enough having to pay for System 7.1 without having such difficulty
getting 7.1 compatible versions of simple utilities.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
This is a MFZ  Yes there are alternatives to Micro*oft
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]
Internet 137.154.97.11

------------------------------

Date: 13 May 1993 08:35:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael A. McGuire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #100

>In Article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (The Moderators) wrote:
>Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 17:43:35 +0100
>From: Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Excel 4.0 & Arrow keys...
>
>Microsoft strikes again...
>
>As some of you may remember, I was having the problem in Excel 4.0 that, when
>I hit the down arrow key, instead of moving down a cell the spreadsheet would
>scroll down a line.  As I learned today from Denis Gauthier of Quebec, the
>solution is to hit the F14 key (as should have been intuitively obvious to
all
>:-).  Needless to say, I am VERY grateful to Denis Gauthier for revealing
this
>mystical magical secret (which he told me he got from a friend who uses the
PC
>version).

>Elliot Bennett

  Ah Microsoft! The company we love to hate.

  Elliot is correct as far as I can tell. There is no mention of F14 in the
Excel 4.0 manual. The problem did interest me and in checking I found that
on my extended keyboard F14 is labled "scroll lock". When I started up Excel
my arrow keys behaved just like I thought they would. Up, down, left, right
one cell and the work sheet did NOT move. However, when I pressed F14 I
scrolled down one line (the entire work sheet scrolled down one line).
Pressing F14 again toggled off this "feature".  Don't you love
documentation?


Michael A. McGuire, :-)
[e-mail]
UTCC - User Services

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 10:07:24 +0000
From: LTB Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: IS Courseware

Does anyone know of any software (Hypercard stacks or Quicktime movies) that
can be used to illustrate the operation of some of the basic types of
information systems (TPS, MIS, DSS, ESS, OA)?  I teach an introduction to IS
course at the undergraduate level and such software would be helpful in
getting the concepts across to the less technically literate.

Brian Wright
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 03:17 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: JMP (A)

<[e-mail]> writes:
> Does anyone know by experience which sort of program is JMP?
> Is it something like SAS, or is it completely different?
> Many many thanks to anyone will help.

JMP is *nothing* like SAS.  A demo was once posted at info-mac (1 year
ago?).  You may find a copy at one of the mirrors that maintain old
sumex files.  Try
<wuarchive.wustl.edu>   /mirrors2/info-mac/Old/demo
or write the SAS Institute for a $ 10 (?) demo disk.

Cheers- Shekhar Govind               [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93  11:32 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Dohan)
Subject: JMP (R)

Maurizio:
There was (is?) a JMP demo at sumex-aim.  I looked at
it several months ago, and my recollection is that:
(1) it gave a pretty good idea of how JMP operated and
(2) JMP isn't at all like SAS (much more menu-driven
    and graphics-based, which maybe is good maybe is not).
I haven't checked to see if the demo is still up, but if
it is that's probably the fastest way to check out JMP's
features.
Hope this helps.
-dan ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 19:07:28 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter 8.0

I just got a copy of the LaserWriter 8.0 installation disk, from the
Washington Apple Pi bulletin board. It is a very different animal from
the LW driver we have known and loved. So different that I called Apple
User Assistance to ask what was happening. Over the next half hour the
Apple rep and I sort of jointly fingered out what was going on. He had
not seen the new driver before either.

What's new? There are a bunch of PPD's (PostScript Printer Descriptions)
that come on the disk. I had only seen PPD's in the context of PageMaker,
a toy Leslye uses. And PPD's have always seemed unfathomable to me. Since
we don't have PageMaker at the office, I just custom-installed the LW8
driver. Watch that part, even. It does not replace your LaserWriter in
the Extensions folder because its name is "LaserWriter 8.0" now. You must
trash your old LaserWriter extension manually.

By the way, SAM 3.5 is truly install-friendly. It comes up observing that
it seems like I'm doing an install, and would I like it to temporarily
turn itself off while the install is going on? Nice. But I digress.

Then I popped into the chooser to select my printer. New button: setup.
It asked for the appropriate PPD. Since I had not installed any PPD's,
both office printers showed as Generic. Brand X? Nonsense! So I went back
to the installer to custom-install the printers. The Personal LW NT was
rather straightforward, but do I have a IIg v2010.113 or v2010.130? At
that point I called Apple. I needn't have bothered. If I had been a good
person and just done an easy install, I could have told setup to just do
an automatic setup for either of the printers. The "automatic" option
found out which "v" of the IIg I had. And how much memory.

And after the printer was setup, a little printer icon showed up to the
left of the printer name in the Chooser. No, I've no idea what that means
if anything. I suspect this whole thing is an Apple plot to get you to
buy the manual.

And easy vs. custom install doesn't seem to have any effect on disk space
I just put in the Personal NT and the two IIg PPD's on my box. I did an
easy (every PPD in the world) on our secretary's machine. There is no PPD
file on either hard disk. The LaserWriter 8.0 extensions are the same
size. What does PPD mean in this context? Beats me.

I thought it was a hoot that the Apple tech type had never seen the 8.0
LW driver and had to download it as we spoke. It took him long enough to
do so (620K stuffed file, expanded to a 1.44M floppy image) that I had
to do something in the interim. I diddled with the installer and found
what I just told you. The tech confirmed what I'd found, I apologized for
bothering him, and we hung up wondering just what the naughtyword either
of us had accomplished.

One more note. The installer does not install the new LaserWriter Utility
program. You have to copy that puppy yourself.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 17:52:05 BST
From: Donald Peterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: logic font

For writing formulae in logical notation, the Mac's Symbol Font is a
bit limited. Is there another font I can get, or if necessary some
software, that can do it better.

Thanks in advance,

Donald Peterson.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 13:33 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: looking for a Mac-based bulletin board application

From:   NAME: David J. Crockett
    FUNC: News Services
    TEL: [phone]                         <DAVE AT A1 AT UNIREL>
To:     in%"[e-mail]"@mrgate


Greetings:

I am looking for a no-frills, Macintosh-based telephone
dial-in bulletin board server application.  My office is
running the DOS-based RyBBS system on a PeeCee, but what I'd
really like to do is run a similar system on my office Mac
under MultiFinder (yeah, I'm a System 6.x holdout...) so
that I could perform sysop duties without running back and
forth across the room (not to mention having to remember
freakin' backslash commands, etc.)

FTPable shareware preferred, but beggars can't be choosers!

Post suggestions or e-mail direct.  Ad(thanks)vance.

David J. Crockett <[e-mail]>
Clemson (S.C.) University News Services

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 03:36 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Looking for a utility to convert IGES, DXF or HPGL files (A)

<[e-mail]> writes:
>   Does anyone know of a utility that can convert IGES, DXF or HPGL files to
> PICT, or some other intermediate format that I can convert to PICT?   ant to

Canvas 3.0.x can open DXF/IGES and save as PICT.
MacLink Translators can convert AutoCad DXF to PICT.

Cheers- Shekhar Govind               [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 21:27:07 -0400
From: ED HOLZER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac error codes

This may be an FAQ, but...........Where can I get a list of Mac error codes?
I have no idea what constitutes a <type 1 error>.  Or a "type 2" or "type 3"
or "F-Line error", for that matter.
Ed Holzer

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 23:34:32 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacinTalk (where, how much, how good) (A)

   In June with introduction of Apple Cyclone computer with dsp chip a new
version of macintalk that sounds much more real than the old or the moose.
You will give up coffee entirely!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 11 May 93 22:54:55 EDT
From: David Norris <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macsbug

I've heard alot about Macsbug so I decided to see what all the hubub was
about.
 I downloaded it from ftp.apple.com and got macsbug (6.1 I think), some
 example
 and something called dcms. After unbin-hexing it I tried out the program and
 i
t didn't work. Is Macsbug something like a settings file for a commercial
produ
ct (Macsbugs preferences file looked kind of like a res-edit file). If not
what
 else to I need. I'm not even so sure what Macsbug is exactly. Is there some
 ot
her file I need to get from apple? I already have res-edit 2.1.1 and think
Pasc
al. Any help would be great.
              Thank You,
             David Norris    r3dan1@akronvm
                     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 08:33:49 BST
From: A.D'[e-mail]
Subject: MacTCP -Old Version and System 7.1 - seems to work fine

I have been using the old version of MacTCP (1.1) with System 7.1 without
any system crashes! I was lead to believe by Apple that I needed to buy the
new expensive upgrade of MacTCP for System 7.1 Anybody discovered any
problems? What does the new version of MacTCP offer.
                Regards, Tony D'Emanuele

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 19:33:01 -0400
From: ED HOLZER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mystery Crash problem

Intercon has an INTERNET access program and service for the Mac called
"worldlink" .  It's a super deal except for one small problem...the ftp
request function crashes my Quadra 700 every time with a variety of different
bombs.  Various notices come up like;  "unknown program unexpectedly quit due
to a bad F-line" or"...a type 1 error" or "...a type 3 error".  I have been
working with Intercon using MACSBUG printouts and INITCatcher etc  but to no
avail.  Recently I tried the "ALERT" program  and the diagnostics read OK no
problem with conflicting software  but the machine continues to crash...only
when I ask for FTP transfer request.
Has anyone had a similar experience?  Has anyone got a clue as to what might
be the problem?  Any help would be most gratefully appreciated.  Thanks.
Ed Holzer  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 09:28:25 -0800 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Panfilov Arkady Leonidovich)
Subject: need sumacc software

Hi friends!
I am from Moscow, my name is Arkady Panfilov.
Some years ago I used sumacc sofware to write application for Macintosh.
But today, I want use sumacc tools again. Would you please tell me where
I can get new version of sumacc software on sumex ftp host.

Best regards Arkady Panfilov.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 13:23:58 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Clinton Hyde)
Subject: need sys 6.0.7

I recently got an Asante EN/SC, which I hope to use with my SE, but I
need a really clean copy of sys 6.0.7 -- can anyone tell me how to get
one?  (i found a slightly damaged copy of 6.0.8, and that caused major
trouble)

please reply direct, of course.

 -- clint               [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 14:58:11 CDT
From: [e-mail] (The News)
Subject: newscrud

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: snake40.cs.wisc.edu!oehler
From: [e-mail] (Wonko the Sane)
Subject: Postscript files on a mac
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (The News)
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 19:57:51 GMT


My problem: I want to make a .ps file with my mac that is reasonably
portable.

It doesn't want to work.  I've tried all sorts of things.  DMM LW 7.1.2,
macps, ghostview, MacGhostscript, the works.  What've I got to do to make this
darned thing portable?  Slap the big "C" on my forehead cuz I am clueless.

Thanx.

Eric Oehler
[e-mail]
(before the 20th of may, [e-mail], please)

--
[e-mail]
Eric Oehler

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 06:56:02 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Grant R. Bowman)
Subject: Norton vs Other Utils. (A)

I just purchased Public Utilities.  They came in and did a demonstration for
BMUG audience here in Berkeley.  They pulled out a list of 7 pages of stuff
that Public Utilities did that Norton gagged on.  It happened that that week
the Planet BMUG BBS system crashed, and although it couldn't mount the drive
that well, it was the only utility of them all that could even attempt to
recover a big drive that had something like 70,000 files on it.  They also
did a demo where a guy from the audience came down with his power-book to get
it defragmented.  They pulled the plug to prove how solid the product was in
the middle of the operation.  It booted just find, and he continued!

Symantec came by a couple of weeks later, at it just seemed pathetic.

I am very happy with my purchase, and feel that I bought the right product
in part due to the recommendations of one of the 2 largest Mac user groups
in the world (BMUGs Berkeley and Boston, if I am not mistaken).

Cheers,

     Grant Bowman      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 10:47:35 -0400
From: "Steve Marsh"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Performa 450 prices

Howdy, My dad is buying his first computer, and I've recommended the
Performa 450 for a complete 'out-of-box' experience. It is cheaper (around
here) than an LCIII when you add up the modem, monitor, and software. I
have a couple of questions: What prices have y'all seen for the system?
What software is bundled? Also, what's a good street price for a
Stylewriter II? Preferable price quotes would be from national chain stores
or Boston-area stores. Please reply directly to me so's not to clog up
info-mac, and I'd be happy to forward replies to others that may be
interested. Thanks in advance...

- Steve Marsh  "[e-mail]"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 19:30:16 EDT
From: Lee Hartley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Performa vrs LCIII

I am interested in getting an LC III and have considered the Performa
450 since they are easily available while the LC III requires some
waiting.  My question is - what do I give up - if anything - by getting
a Performa instead of the Mac.  The only differences I can see are the
hard drive and the monitor. Are they close in value or would it be
better to wait until an LC III is available?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 13:05:01 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Lance K. Chun)
Subject: Protest IIvi cancellation! Call to arms -- NOT!

Mr. Frank Lechner write:

>If you purchased a vi, I hope you will join me in protesting in the strongest
>possible terms to Apple. The only way in which I think Apple can make this
>better is to offer IIvi owners an upgrade path at a cost greatly reduced from
>the current one. Perhaps a lobby will have some effect.


_I_ am so sick and tired of people who bitch about their CHEAP little Mac's
being so expensive and quickly outdated. You want to hear some REAL stories
which absolutely deserves Apple's pity? I bought my IIci back in '90 and I
paid more for it than the current Quad 800--which is about 3-4 times faster
than my machine. My friend's dad bought his Mac Plus back in the hay days
and he paid over $8,000 for his little setup--back then ($8,000 meant a lot
more than it does today, so let's make it $10,000 current monetary value).
So please spare US your bitchings... Enough of us OLD Mac users have enough
credentials to gripe, but we don't. I don't want to hear any more of these
kinds of open letter crap.

Sincerely,
Lance

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 20:46:02 EDT
From: Nathan Y Pearlstein <[e-mail]>
Subject: QT 1.6 and SoundManager

I read in the press release for QT 1.6 that Sound Manager 3.0 was to be
included.  When I ran TattleTale it said that the sound manager version was
2.0.1 I have a Mac IIci sys 7.1.  What gives?
--
 Later, DarkNater

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 12:19 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: QuickTime 1.6 press release

All well and good, but the press release (Digest #100) doesn't say a thing
about the mysterious new Apple Component Video codec!  I wonder if the
person who wrote that press release also helps write Apple's manuals...

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 13:12:34 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Recordable-CD for Audio?

I understand that the up'n'coming R-CD (recordable-CD) that is just lately
finding its way onto the market is meant for computer multi-media apps.
Supposedly, you can save major data on these things, in any of applications
and data, QuickTime, or audio clips formats.  Sounds like whatever you save
must be saved from the Mac, and in a Mac-readable format.

Here's the question.  I want to record AUDIO.  I want to put the disk into a
home CD player, and get AUDIO out.  Not programs, not QuickTime movies.  I
don't really care if my Mac can read it.  I write music, and the idea of
creating my own CD for my own use is really _REALLY_ appealing.

Does anyone know if these devices will have the capability to write a purely
audio format?   Take a stereo audio input, create a generic audio CD for
your home stereo use?

Any comments would be welcomed.

Brandon Munday
[e-mail]
One World Order would be a neat idea if each person didn't want to be the
king.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 08 May 93 10:11:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Room Scheduler

Irv Wiswall asked about conference software back in InfoMac v.11#90.

He might want to look into MacEvent from Impact Solutions at [phone].
This is a serious database application based on 4th Dimension and
(unfortunately) is also seriously priced. Give them a call for info. One
review was featured in "The Meeting Manager" magazine, 2/93, p.52-53. Another
review was in "Successful Meetings," 8/92, p.76. Basically, it maintains a
database of current conferences with accompanying events, seminars &
committee meetings. Permits multiple fee schedules for each event, prepares
badges, labels, tickets, invoices. Nice To-Do list function.

Jim Bethin

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 11:55:00 +0000
From: "M-James (M.J.) Bartley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SIMM prices (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, & 64 Meg - 72 Pins)

Reply-To: [e-mail]

Here's a bit of a follow-up to the discussion about SIMMs.

Taken from page 398 of the May 25, 1993 (Vol. 12 No. 10) issue of
PC Magazine, which is an ad for a company called L.A. Trade:

   SIMM MODULES:                60NS      70NS      80NS
   -----------------------   -------   -------   -------
   256 x 36  1Meg (72 PIN)      -         -        50.00
   512 x 36  2Meg (72 PIN)      -        85.00     80.00
     1 x 36  4Meg (72 PIN)    169.00    159.00    149.00
     2 x 36  8Meg (72 PIN)    309.00    299.00    299.00
     4 x 36 16Meg (72 PIN)    619.00    609.00    599.00
     8 x 36 32Meg (72 PIN)      -      1475.00   1450.00
    16 x 36 64Meg               -      5900.00      -

These ads (like all ads) are to be taken with a grain of salt.
I just ordered an LCIII and would like to get a 16M module, so
I'm shopping and I thought you might find this interesting.

I don't know any of the details about these configurations.  When
I do get around to actually buying, I'll just head down to my
friendly local computer dealer (who has been in business since
before both the IBM PC and Macintosh) and let him make sure that
I get the right item for my nice new Mac.

--
M. James Bartley
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 01:31:24 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sockets for MacTCP

We are looking for sockets libraries for MacTCP.

Anyone have any info or pointers?

Thanks.

Monty

---
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 May 93 12:54 PST
From: Charles G Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperCard advice needed... (Q)

     Hello InfoMac Digesters,

     Does anyone have suggestions for good, easy to read and understand,
     SuperCard reference books?  I have been using HyperCard for a while
     and would like to see what kind of "enhanced" features SuperCard
     supports.

     Thank you,

     Chuck

          [e-mail] * [e-mail]
                   _kai_

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 May 93 08:40:06 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TCP/IP Connection ?

Apple renamed MacTCP --> 'TCP/IP Connection for Macintosh' and are being taken
to court because of a third party product called 'TCP/IP Connection II'.
[POSTERS NOTE: What the blasted $#% was Apple thinking about?]  What is going
on
with that?  I want all gory details.

thanks
 -------
tim cera - [e-mail]
computer operations manager
department of neuroscience / uf brain institute

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Date: 13 May 93 08:18:00 CST
From: "Mike Sisson  " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Thanks for the Help

Just wanted to thank the following people for their help in my request for
the UnMountIt utility:

[e-mail]      (Colin)
[e-mail]          (?????)
[e-mail]      (Allan)
[e-mail]  (Jeff)
[e-mail] (?????)
[e-mail]    (Scott)
[e-mail]           (Hans)
[e-mail]      (Peter)

I too have made requests that received no answer but obviously that wasn't
the case this time. It still amazes me after several years as a part of the
Internet community that I can ask a question or send/receive info so easily
with people in Australia, Germany, UK, etc... Ain't technology grand????

Thank you,
Mike Sisson
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 May 93 16:31:56-0400
From: /PN=JOHN.WITHERS/O=IRS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com
Subject: Thanks to the net

I want to thank all who replied to my earlier message involving
concatenating text files.  I would have replied to you individually,
but I have misplaces most of the messages.

To summarize, the consensus opinion of the net was to use my favorite
word processor or an editor like BBEdit or Alpha.  There was also
a suggestion to use special use tool.  The ones suggested were
'Combiner' and 'Unity'.  The latter was small and easily retrieved
fro the Rice Listserv.  It is wonderful.  'Combiner' is along the
same line, but slightly larger.  It is also wonderful.

Once again, thanks all.

John Withers
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 May 93 12:55:17 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Dear)
Subject: Think C 6

I received this this AM from Symantec.
It looks like the hot topic for today.

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Symantec Ships First Native C++ for Macintosh


      FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                CONTACT:
      PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT                 Jackie Brinker
                           Symantec Corporation
                           [phone]

                           Rebecca Fuller
                           Wilson McHenry Company
                           [phone]

          SYMANTEC SHIPS FIRST NATIVE C++ FOR MACINTOSH

           ? Introduces Three New Development Tools ?

               KEY FEATURES OVERVIEW
      * 1st Native C++ development environment for the Macintosh
      * Fast C and C++ compilers with incremental linking
      dramatically reduce development time
      * Open environment allows developers to integrate their
      favorite editors and tools
      * Automatic project management eliminates routine hassles
      * Support for team programming enables teams of developers
      to tackle development of more sophisticated programs


      CUPERTINO, Calif. -- May 12, 1993 -- Macintosh developers
      can now write software faster and more easily with Symantec
      C++ 6.0 for Macintosh, a development environment introduced
      today by Symantec Corporation (NASDAQ:SYMC).  Symantec C++
      for Macintosh is the first development environment for the
      Macintosh with an integrated, native C++ compiler.  C++, the
      object-oriented evolution of the C language, is fast
      becoming the computer industry's most popular programming
      language.

      The company also announced the availability of THINK C 6.0
      and Symantec C++ 6.0 for Apple's Macintosh Programmer's
      Workshop (MPW).  THINK C, the number-one selling Macintosh
      development environment, is a complete package of tools and
      libraries for programmers, students and hobbyists.  Symantec
      C++ for MPW is a native C++ compiler for users of MPW.

      "Object-oriented programming in C++ is revolutionizing the
      process of software development," said Gene Wang, Symantec's
      executive vice president of applications and development
      tools.  "As the leading provider of Macintosh languages,
      Symantec is now bringing this revolution to Macintosh
      developers."

      "At Apple we are seeing strong demand for C++ to improve
      programmer productivity and to help bring applications to
      market faster," said Steve Weyl, Apple's director of
      developer tools group.  "Symantec C++ for Macintosh, with
      its tightly integrated development environment, faster
      compile/link times and support for the latest C++ features,
      provides the capabilities developers most need to rapidly
      bring to market the innovative new applications for which
      the Macintosh is famous."

      Symantec C++ for Macintosh: Fastest C++ Development
      Environment

      Symantec C++ for Macintosh gives developers access to all of
      the benefits of object-oriented programming through a fast,
      native C++ compiler in a tightly integrated environment.
      Symantec C++ for Macintosh is based on the THINK environment
      and includes all of THINK C 6.0.  THINK products have long
      dominated the Macintosh languages market because of their
      reputation among professional developers for high speed and
      tight integration of development tools.

      "The three most important things about this program are that
      it's fast, open and native C++.  And, I can use my favorite
      editors and tools," said Randy Hill, software engineer at
      Claris Corporation.  "I have been waiting for a very fast
      C++ for the Macintosh, and this is it!"

      Fast C++:  Symantec C++ for Macintosh is the only
      development environment available with an integrated native
      C++ compiler and incremental linker.  According to company
      benchmarks, the compiler is 50 percent faster than the Apple
      MPW CFront implementation.  The incremental linker
      significantly reduces development time by only linking new
      or modified code into the program.  Also supported are the
      latest C++ features such as templates, multiple inheritance
      and nested classes.

      Open Environment:  The environment includes an editor, a
      source code browser and a C++ source code debugger.  An open
      development environment means that during the development
      process, programmers can use their favorite tools, such as
      code editors and resource tools.  Symantec C++ for Macintosh
      is Apple Event- and AppleScript-aware, and can execute
      Macintosh MPW scripts from within the Symantec environment.

      Automatic project management:  The THINK Project Manager in
      Symantec C++ for Macintosh keeps track of the relationships
      between all files and libraries.  It tracks all new or
      modified code and upon request, recompiles the appropriate
      files and rebuilds the program.  The THINK Project Manager
      eliminates routine hassles and is one of the unique features
      that makes the product line so popular with programmers.

      Team Programming:  Symantec C++ for Macintosh includes
      Apple's SourceServer which creates an environment that
      supports team development.  SourceServer tracks programming
      modules that have been "checked out," and provides a source
      code control system that coordinates the efforts of multiple
      programmers working simultaneously on the same program.

      THINK C: Number-One Product Has New, Open Environment

      With THINK C 6.0, developers can build any kind of Macintosh
      application, desk accessory, device driver or code resource.
      A new, open development environment allows developers to use
      the tools included in THINK C,  or a compiler, debugger or
      editor from another vendor.  THINK C also features an
      improved project manager with increased performance for
      faster development.  An improved debugger enables developers
      to debug larger pieces of code and, as a result, build
      superior applications.

      Symantec C++ for MPW: The C++ Choice

      For users of Apple's MPW, Symantec C++ for MPW delivers a
      native C++ compiler that, according to company tests, is 50
      percent faster than the CFront alternative.  It is the same
      C++ compiler that comes in Symantec C++ for Macintosh, and
      supports the latest C++ features including templates, nested
      classes and multiple inheritance.

      Pricing and Availability

      Symantec C++  6.0 for Macintosh, THINK C 6.0 and Symantec
      C++  6.0 for MPW are available immediately.  Symantec C++
      6.0 for Macintosh has a suggested retail price of $499 and
      cross-grades for THINK C 5.0 users are $149.95.  THINK C 6.0
      has a suggested retail price of $299 and upgrades for THINK
      C 5.0 users are $89.95.  The suggested retail price for
      Symantec C++  6.0 for MPW is $499.

      Symantec Corporation develops, markets and supports a
      complete line of application and system software products
      for IBM personal computers, IBM compatible PCs and Apple
      Macintosh computers.  Founded in 1982, the company has
      offices in the United States, Canada, Australia and Europe.
      Information on the company and products can be obtained by
      calling:  [phone] toll free, or [phone].

                     -30-

      Brands and product references herein are the trademarks or
      registered trademarks of their respective holders.

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 16:59:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Gontier)
Subject: THINK C 6 IMPORTANT UPGRADE INFO

The people on the other end of the customer service phone at Symantec
are very nice people. However, they are not programmers. I just got
off of a half-hour call with one of them to confirm that I had placed
the correct THINK C 6 upgrade order. Here's the deal:

There are three upgrade paths from THINK C 5. One is an MPW option,
and I didn't check it out. The other two are THINK-C-style
environment options. There is a THINK C 6 ($89.95) and a Symantec C++
6 ($149.95). The latter includes the former; the latter is a
superset of the former. In other words, if you order Symantec C++ 6,
you will get THINK C 6 along with it. Don't order both! And don't
make the mistake, as I did yesterday, of simply asking for the THINK
C 6 upgrade; ask explicitly for the Symantec C++ upgrade, and make
sure they don't mistakenly send you the MPW version.

The phone number, for those who've missed it the first 100 times,
is +1 800.441.7234.
--
 Pete Gontier // EC Technology // [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 22:40:07 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Greg Friedman)
Subject: TouchBase Pro STINKS!

I just got my TouchBase Pro upgrade and man, does it stink!

The first thing the app does upon launch is attempt to write to nil
(memory address 0). This doesn't necessarily cause problems, but
it is blatant evidence of shoddy programming.  Haven't you guys
ever heard of debugging tools? I can't believe they don't have
a single engineer or beta tester running EvenBetterBusError!

There are tons of cosmetic bugs. Progress dialogs don't draw
correctly. The quickletter window opens larger than my largest
screen.  I can't get to the print button. All I can do is close
the window.

Cut and paste doesn't work! I can't cut text from one field and
paste it into another! Give me a break!!!

The main window is now divided into 3 separate views. There is no
way to view all of the data that belongs to a contact at once. You
have to use a popup to switch between the views! Some of us
have large monitors for a reason...

The new reconcilation feature is half-ass. The best way to use it
is to allow it to keep a log of changes that are made to the file.
The log is kept in an external file in the prefs folder. If you
want to reconcile without mounting both volumes on a network, you
have to do all kinds of file moving. Why didn't they store the
damn log in the database!

I waited way too long for this!

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Date: Thu, 13 May 93 00:19:40 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Trinitron TVs vs. Monitors

One of my desktop publishing students asked me what the difference was
between a Trinitron TV and a Trinitron-based computer monitor. I
realized I did not have a precise answer, so I thought I'd ask...-Pete

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Date: Thu, 13 May 93 06:14 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: TurboGopher Bookmark Longforms (A)

In 11-100, Tom Wilson wonders how to transfer a TurboGopher Bookmark
without sending the entire Preferences file.

Select the bookmark and use the "Save as a Bookmark File" item in the File
menu to export that bookmark to disk. To install a bookmark, use the
"Import Bookmarks" item in the Gopher menu.

By the way, you can connect via gopher to Apple's ftp server and thus
retrieve any ftp.apple.com files via gopher. That server isn't listed in
the usual listing of all gopher sites. If any TurboGopher user wants that
bookmark, just drop me a note and I'll mail it or...aw, heck--it's just a
few lines long. I'm omitting the word "BinHex" before "4.0" because
otherwise some systems would notify you that this Info-Mac bulletin has an
attachment and convert the file automatically, a real annoyance for some of
you. If you want the bookmark, add the word "BinHex" where it belongs and
then dehqx it.

(This file must be converted with 4.0)

:&QCdF#jKF("XC5jMEfdZ3Qp[DfeKFQX!3NY05de%4%B!N!9!!*!%d`daCR4`,Q&
`F'aP,Q0[E3PQG("SB@0V#fCdF#jKF("XC5jMEfd*BA0SF'p[E#jYD@0bEbjeE@i
ZC@4e#63c-M30l&d!N!8:


Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 18:39 EST
From: MACLINK/PC GREAT <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ultrabook, Color Screens

Dear Netters,
BTW:
I took a glimpse at a MacUser in January seeing some mention of an
"Ultrabook"?
Active-Matrix display, Color, and made by Apple?  Anyone heard any more news
about it?  Also is Apple about to make any separatable color displays that are
portable?  Or were these just rumors in the MacUser?
If they aren't rumors, when are these things supposed to come out?  My dealer
hasn't heard of them.  What prices are we looking for list prices for these.

Please e-mail answers directly to me (as well as the net if you wish!).

Thank you.

Sincerely,

[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 13 May 93 11:07:06 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Steve Portigal)
Subject: What happened to Issue 99?

 I see that issue 98 and issue 100 are in the archives. I never
received issue 99, nor do I see it at sumex. What happened?

 Steve Portigal

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 09:07:18 -0400
From: Ed Ver Hoef <[e-mail]>
Subject: where is word-color-toolbar?

Where has word-color-toolbar gone?  In a recent info-mac where it was
announced, it was reported as being saved as misc/word-color-toolbar.
However, it was several days before I had the opportunity to try to download
it.  In the interim, transition to the new file structure has begun.  Now I
can't find it.  It is not in the old misc directory.  I have looked in a few
of the likely new directories but so far no joy.  Can anyone help?

Ed Ver Hoef

[In general it is a good idea to fetch down the /info-mac/help/all-files.txt,
especially now during the transition.  I looked through there and found:
-r    88370 Apr 23 23:27 ./app/word-color-toolbar.hqx
So, it resides there for now.  I'm afraid things are going to be confusing
for a while :) - Gordon]

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 07:52 EDT
From: Philip Sharman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word styles analyzer (Q)

Am I dreaming or was there once a utility to let you analyze
the styles in a Word document?  If anyone can tell me the name
of this I'd appreciate it.  (And yes, I've looked in all-files.txt
and abstracts, and I still can't find it.)
  Thanks,
   Philip Sharman ([e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 08:00:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ephraim Fithian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Writing in circles (A)

Allan Hunter <[e-mail]> writes:

>Gradual Irritation # 24, reaching a critical point:  what do I gotta do
>to make text bend around in curves and circles and print out that way on
>my non-PostScript StyleWriter?

The application that lets you create text on a curve is Illustrator 3.2.
You can even create outlines of Adobe fonts (not TrueType) and modify
them. To place text on a circle, cut the circle at one of its anchor points.

To print out Illustrator 3.2 documents on a StyleWriter, you have two
choices. The first choice is to use StyleWriter driver 7.1 (not 7.0, 7.2,
7.2.2, or 7.2.3). The second choice is to use the StyleWriter II driver.
The quality of the print is superior to a LaserWriter IIg.

Ephraim Fithian
Kutztown University of PA

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 08:10:27 -0600 (MDT)
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Breslow)
Subject: Wyse50 or TV950/925 emulation for mac?

Help!
Does anyone know of any terminal emulation software or tools (public
domain or commercial) that can emulate either a wyse50 of televideo925
terminal? I need to access a program on our unix server that is hard-coded
for only those two terminals. Please drop me a line if you know of such a
thing.
Todd Breslow
[e-mail]

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Date: 12 May 1993 20:57:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ziffnet-mac

How about "Zineware" as it is put our by MacUser as a service to their
readers and as an incentive to join Z-mac?

-Dwight

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 12:34:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: LAN Supervisor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ziffnet-mac

> So what does one call such software?  It's obviously not "free"ware, since
you
> must subscribe to their service.  Neither is it "share"ware since it can't
be
> shared outside the service.  Perhaps it is subware - you must subscribe to
> their service to get it?

how about ziffware?

Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
[e-mail] / [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1993 06:27:11 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Ziffnet-Mac

At  7:05pm 11/5/93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: 10 May 1993 12:59:47 -0600 (CST)
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Ziffnet-mac
>
>I was prompted into writing this while reading the messages about where to
>find HideAlways, and the fact that it is ONLY available on Ziffnet.
>
>It seems to me that creatinga shareware/freeware product but then limiting
>its distribution to one online service is a tad strange.  Please don't flame
>at me - I do not begrudge Ziffnet to run their business as they do.  I just
>am of the opinion that wide distribution of freeware/shareware is a better
>option for all parties included.
>
>So what does one call such software?  It's obviously not "free"ware, since
you
>must subscribe to their service.  Neither is it "share"ware since it can't be
>shared outside the service.  Perhaps it is subware - you must subscribe to
>their service to get it?
>
>What do y'all think about this idea of limiting distribution.  I know it is
>one thing that has kept me from joining Ziffnet.  The last thing I need is
>to belong to a "private" club.
>
>stj
>Steven T. Jones
>Assistant Professor of Design & Technology
>Middle Tennessee State University


I couldn't agree more. How can it be shareware/freeware if you have to pay
(a subscription) to even try it out.

This system of distribution also means that it is only readily available to
people in the USA as even though I am a MacUser subscriber trans atlantic
downloading via modem is hardly a viable option.

It seemed to me pretty weird that I could get the 7.01 compatible version
of HideAlways via sumex but could only get the 7.1 version from Ziffnet.

It's bad enough having to pay for System 7.1 without having such difficulty
getting 7.1 compatible versions of simple utilities.
Colin McLaughlin    University of Western Sydney OZ

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Date: Thu, 13 May 93 12:49:54 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: ZiffNet/Mac Software

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> It seems to me that creatinga shareware/freeware product but then limiting
> its distribution to one online service is a tad strange.  Please don't flame
> at me - I do not begrudge Ziffnet to run their business as they do.  I just
> am of the opinion that wide distribution of freeware/shareware is a better
> option for all parties included.

It's certainly a different tack that hasn't particularly been used
before, which doesn't imply that it's bad.

> So what does one call such software?  It's obviously not "free"ware, since
you
> must subscribe to their service.  Neither is it "share"ware since it can't
be
> shared outside the service.  Perhaps it is subware - you must subscribe to
> their service to get it?

They call it ZiffNet/Mac Exclusive software. It is very much NOT meant
to be freeware - ZiffNet/Mac pays talented programmers to create that
stuff, and they pay someone at ZiffNet/Mac to act as program manager
for the utilities. They aren't creating those utilities out of the
good of their hearts, like most freeware authors, and that's one reason
the utilities are generally of such high quality.

> What do y'all think about this idea of limiting distribution.  I know it is
> one thing that has kept me from joining Ziffnet.  The last thing I need is
> to belong to a "private" club.

Well, that's exactly the idea. ZiffNet/Mac has to compete with MAUG
on the same CompuServe machines, not to mention all the other online
services. If they want to make a profit, they have to differentiate
themselves from all the rest, and one way they have chosen to do this
is to commission these high-quality utilities. Just like you can only
get certain services (like publication databases) on certain online
services, you can only get these particular utilities on ZiffNet/Mac.

They are free to ZiffNet/Mac members (which, I believe, entails a
$2.50 fee each month on top of your CompuServe connect charges), and
you don't pay for download time during the month the utility
is first introduced. The idea is very much that you will enjoy the
discussions and other services on ZiffNet/Mac enough after you logon
for your free utility that you'll stay and spend time (and thus money)
online. It's a hook, plain and simple, but I see nothing wrong with
that. I personally mainly like the discussions with the MacWEEK and
MacUser editors and writers, and the top 10 (or 18) articles from
MacWEEK the Friday night before the issue comes out the next week.

But, when it comes right down to it, distributing a ZiffNet/Mac utility
like BackToTheFolder on the Internet is equally as illegal and unethical
as distributing a copy of Super Boomerang on the Internet. ZiffNet/Mac
is in fact far more generous than most commercial publishers, because
they allow individuals to give a friend a copy of a ZiffNet/Mac utility,
and that's patently softare piracy with something like Super Boomerang.
I'm sure that ZiffNet/Mac allows this to encourage more people to
get on ZiffNet/Mac, but such is marketing.

And, since every time I mention this I get requests for individual
copies of ZiffNet/Mac utilities, let me say up front that I will not
send out copies to anyone. Period. I simply have far better things
to do with my time and the Internet line I pay for than to stretch
the definition of the ZiffNet/Mac exclusive license agreement. Sorry
if this sounds harsh.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Wed, 12 May 93 16:25:26 CDT
From: [e-mail]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest,comp.sys.mac.misc
Path: whitefish!jonesw
From: [e-mail] (Wesley S. Jones)
Subject: fli Movie files on a mac?
Message-ID: <jonesw.737241771@whitefish>
Summary: fli movie files on a mac?
Keywords: fli mac
Sender: [e-mail]
Nntp-Posting-Host: whitefish
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 21:22:51 GMT
Lines: 9

I have an "fli" movie file for a PC and I want to display it on a Mac is
this possible?  Is there a viewer for the mac or can I convert this file
to QuickTime?

Please email me any suggestions.  Thanks in advance,

Wesley Stuart Jones
[e-mail]
Motorola, Inc. - Paging and Wireless Data Group

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